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Well, again the "gold standard" (IMHO) of this genre is The Lord of the Rings. Three books, doesn't get any better. Oh - there is a "prequel"
to these three called "The Hobbit", which should DEFINITELY be read
first.
That should keep you busy for a little while. ;-)
My uncle lent me Lord of the Rings when I was 9 or so. He was quite
the Tolkein
fan, but as far as I know, not into fantasy, just Tolkein. I had
already read the Hobbit by then, and quite enjoyed it, but the size of Lord of the Rings was daunting and the pace slower. It sat on the back burner and I didn't read it until much later in life. It IS the gold standard of fantasy, and set the template for many other fantasy works later. Tolkein was to fantasy what iD Software was to First Person Shooters, but to be honest, that may be UNDER stating it.
Long live iD! I loved most all of their games, everything they did was
gold for me. Simple enjoyment...
Cougar
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I've been getting into lots of older sci-fi stuff as of late (the old X Minus One serials, Jules Verne, some older sci-fi anthologies I own
from the 70s and 80s (Machines That Think, edited by Isaac Asimov is
what got me into sci-fi!), but I'm itching for more good stuff. I do
have an older copy of the Foundation Trilogy I've been meaning to try
but I'm wondering if there's any other good sci-fi of the 50s-60s I should keep an eye out for (I have half a mind to look for more sci-fi pulp magazines, lol).
I have always considered the Foundation Trilogy to be the "gold
standard" of science fiction. Doesn't get any better. Read that
first. Be advised that there are 3-4 "sequel" books to that trilogy,
that are pretty much garbage. Stick with the original three.
I only know of two sequel books, and a prequel or two. I've read two
of the sequels, Foundations Edge and Foundation and Earth. There is a distinctly different tone and atmosphere, and both follow a different story arc, with the second continuing from the first. I think pretty
much every other Asimov book or story I've read, I rate higher than
these two. I have one of the prequels which I found at a second hand bookstore and got out of curiosity, but my expectations are low.
Yes, that is correct now that I think about it. I grouped the
additional books all as "sequels", but you're right - some were "prequels". All of them were disappointing, at least to me.
On the same note, I've completely neglected Fantasy. I have yet to find ANY fantasy novels I like. A penpal sent me some ebooks of authors like Anne McCaffery, Brandon Sanderson, E.E. Knight, etc. I had already had some interest--having read some older short stories by Robert E. Howard (I'd love some recommendationso f those if you have any). But I'm
mainly interested getting my hands on anything decent fantasy wise that isn't anime or Skyrim, lol.
If anyone has any recommendations of either, I'm dying to know!
Well, again the "gold standard" (IMHO) of this genre is The Lord of the Rings. Three books, doesn't get any better. Oh - there is a "prequel"
to these three called "The Hobbit", which should DEFINITELY be read
first.
That should keep you busy for a little while. ;-)
My uncle lent me Lord of the Rings when I was 9 or so. He was quite
the Tolkein
fan, but as far as I know, not into fantasy, just Tolkein. I had
already read the Hobbit by then, and quite enjoyed it, but the size of Lord of the Rings was daunting and the pace slower. It sat on the back burner and I didn't read it until much later in life.
You're not the only person who has done those books in that way. ;-)
It IS the gold
standard of fantasy, and set the template for many other fantasy works later. Tolkein was to fantasy what iD Software was to First Person Shooters, but to be honest, that may be UNDER stating it.
As a former ID Software addict, I am 100% in agreement; and great
analogy! ;-)
Jimmy Anderson wrote to Boraxman <=-
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Boraxman wrote to Gamgee <=-
My uncle lent me Lord of the Rings when I was 9 or so. He was quite
the Tolkein
fan, but as far as I know, not into fantasy, just Tolkein. I had
already read the Hobbit by then, and quite enjoyed it, but the size of Lord of the Rings was daunting and the pace slower. It sat on the back burner and I didn't read it until much later in life. It IS the gold standard of fantasy, and set the template for many other fantasy works later. Tolkein was to fantasy what iD Software was to First Person Shooters, but to be honest, that may be UNDER stating it.
I know the 'races' from D&D were pulled basically from Tolkein, so he influenced the early RPG scene too!
As a former ID Software addict, I am 100% in agreement; and great
analogy! ;-)
How did you get over the addiction? I'm not recovered yet! In fact, I'm making levels for Quake right now, hopefully will release a short episode this year, inspired by Dante's Inferno.
Nightfox wrote to Boraxman <=-
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Re: Re: Good Older Fantasy &
By: Boraxman to Gamgee on
Sun May 11 2025 10:21 pm
As a former ID Software addict, I am 100% in agreement; and great
analogy! ;-)
How did you get over the addiction? I'm not recovered yet! In fact, I'm making levels for Quake right now, hopefully will release a short episode this year, inspired by Dante's Inferno.
That actually sounds like fun. I tried using some level editors in the 90s, and the only one I was atually able to make levels for was Duke
Nukem 3D. That had a level editor that was fairly easy to use, I
thought.
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Boraxman wrote to Gamgee <=-
It IS the gold
standard of fantasy, and set the template for many other fantasy works later. Tolkein was to fantasy what iD Software was to First Person Shooters, but to be honest, that may be UNDER stating it.
As a former ID Software addict, I am 100% in agreement; and great
analogy! ;-)
How did you get over the addiction? I'm not recovered yet! In fact,
I'm making levels for Quake right now, hopefully will release a short episode this year, inspired by Dante's Inferno.
Well... interesting question. I guess because "Life" moved on and
other games grabbed some attention. Also the transition from DOS to Windows, and then to Linux make it less easy to run the old DOS stuff. Also Duke Nukem 3D was a MAJOR distraction. There was some software called "Kali" that I registered, which allowed online multiplayer
"Duking" and that took a lot of my time away... ;-) I still fire up Doom/Duke/Quake1/2 now and then. Absolutely LOVED Quake2 also. Heretic/Hexen had their time as well.
These days I'm not doing much gaming, too many other distractions.
Likely will after I retire in about 2 years. :-)
Some of my favourite games were made by them, Doom and Quake rank in
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Re: Re: Good Older Fantasy &
By: Boraxman to Gamgee on
Sun May 11 2025 10:21 pm
As a former ID Software addict, I am 100% in agreement; and great
analogy! ;-)
How did you get over the addiction? I'm not recovered yet! In fact, I'm making levels for Quake right now, hopefully will release a short episode this year, inspired by Dante's Inferno.
That actually sounds like fun. I tried using some level editors in the 90s, and the only one I was atually able to make levels for was Duke
Nukem 3D. That had a level editor that was fairly easy to use, I
thought.
It is fun. I'm using Trenchbroom, which is a full 3D preview that you
can edit the level in. Makes things sooo much easier. It's never been more fun to make levels, but it takes longer, as peoples expectations
are higher, so more effort is needed to make something stand out.
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Re: Re: Good Older Fantasy &
By: Boraxman to Gamgee on
Sun May 11 2025 10:21 pm
I'm making levels for Quake right now, hopefully will release a short episode this year, inspired by Dante's Inferno.
IIRC, Paulie of 20forBeers runs a monthly Quake match/game/thing. Check out his board. 20forbeers.com:1337
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